Chiropractic Care for Children

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:00:05] Drumroll, tonight Chiropractic and ageing. What we’re doing is we’re basically chunking it down each age group, we’re going to talk about the importance of chiropractic care and why your nephew, your grandchild, your grandmother could benefit from a checkup and specifically from the things that might be brought to fruition from this checkup and the things that could be done. All right. Take it off. Take it off, Ben start it off.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:00:37] I will start it off. So, guys let’s go to the first slide here. Let’s see what we’ve got planned chiropractic care for our children. So, the analogy that we like to use in chiropractic is if the tree is bent, the tree will continue to grow in that position. If there are structural issues that develop as a child, some of these issues will develop into patterns that lead to compensations which can eventually lead to injury further down the road if they’re not corrected. So that’s that analogy that we like to give. And so there are four main curves in the spine. There’s a cervical lordosis, there’s the thoracic kyphosis and there’s the lumbar lordosis and then there is the sacral kyphosis. And so right at the bottom there.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:01:37] And if you guys, we call all the lower curves to go in, the kyphotic curves come out, that’s why your back is curved outwards. That’s a kyphotic curve.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:01:47] And so in children, the cervical curve. So, the neck curve, the one that goes informs when the infant is able to hold their head up. And so, when they’re starting to use these muscles to extend their head back so they can see the world around them, that’s when that cervical curve starts to develop.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:02:07] And this happens around three to four months of age. So, you want to ensure that you’re hitting these developmental milestones and then the individual, the baby sorry, the child, they also develop the cervical curve when they start to sit up. And so we want to be able to promote these curves and ensure that the children are hitting their milestones and that the curves are developing properly. The lower one. I just want to mention Venezuela, at some point the child gets this belly time because while he’s on his belly, he’ll have no choice but to bring his head up to look forward. So belly time is super important for the development of the cervical curve in that child’s neck. And great point in speaking about the cervical curve.

We can see that Dr. Roach doing a beautiful red line there along with the cervical lower doses. And so that’s actually the spine of a 12-year-old. And so, we’re a little bit further along than an infant. However, the same principles do apply. They have smaller wedge-shaped vertebrae. They’re not necessarily square like you would see in adults in an adult spine. So, they have a little bit of a wedge shape there, which means that the front of the vertebral body is shorter than the back of the body. And so, it’s crucially important in this period that the child develop a beautiful cervical curve and that they’re actively using the muscles in the back of their neck to pull the head back into that curve there. Yeah.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:03:44] I’m going to mention a few things, one of the things that parents don’t realize is that in a natural birth with no interventions whatsoever, the child comes out of the birth canal and there are about 75 to 85 pounds of pressure exerted to get the child. Now, if it’s done through midwifery, they know not to put any pressure and let the body kind of do the work on its own, but in a medical setting, for whatever reason, most of the time the medical doctors are there and they want to they can hold back and they want to assess what they pull. And in natural birth, seventy-five to eighty-five pounds of pressure in a forceps delivery.

Most of the time, you’ll get upwards to eighty-five, ninety-five pounds of pressure and then in the C section there’s a small slit that’s done in terms of an incision and they’re pulling up on the head with a bolt. Ninety-five to a hundred pounds of pressure. The cervical spine of a child can decapitate at one hundred and ten. So, there is a huge amount of stress on a child’s spine from birth. Even in natural birth, let alone a C-section, so many times the trauma from birth is called birth trauma, that, yes, the child may not display any symptoms.

But I guarantee you with that amount of pounds of pressure, there are things there that as a trained chiropractor, you can detect and make sure that you rectify at that young age. So I just want to mention that any of you to know that, make sure you put a thumbs up in there because many parents that I’ve spoken to in the last 15 years have no idea because they’re the ones pushing and they don’t know what’s happening and they don’t know the impact that can have on the child.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:05:44] So as it is bent, so grows the tree. So that’s one of the first examples of why parents will take their newborns to a chiropractor to have an assessment done because already from birth, there’s trauma there. And so, compensations can develop early at that point. So, you can imagine if the child is under some type of stress in the neck, in the cervical spine, that muscles will begin to act and pull in different directions. That will kind of fit how the body is at that particular moment. I just want to talk about the development as well of the lumbar spine curve. And so, when the child is beginning to walk and starting to sit upright, the lumbar spine will begin to form its lower stick curve, which means it’s curving in as well.

And so, this will happen around 12 to 18 months. Right. And some children or even start standing before that. And so it’s very common for children to start developing this curve beforehand, which is why parents will start to hold their children up so they can begin to support and balance themselves. But what comes along with learning to walk is falling. And so, when a child falls, this is when patterns can begin to develop right. Ways to keep themselves upright after a fall. And so, you’ll start to see your pelvic tilt favouring one side versus the other, and then the patterns can make their way further up the chain from there. I wonder if Dr. Roach has something to add to that as well.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:07:11] Yeah, well, I read it, I read an article one time that the average child learning how to walk by the time he learns how to stand without falling will have fallen five thousand times. So, imagine if tomorrow you made that a goal to fall on your behind five thousand times. I guarantee you that that will have an effect on your spine. Right. So, the impact that a child can take at that age, although they seem very resilient and they might not cry when they fall, is definitely cumulative trauma over time and they won’t always fall symmetrically. Obviously, they fall on one side, fall in the other, and now all of a sudden, the child has a pelvic obliquity or one side that’s lower than the other as displayed over here.

Now that sets the stage for the spine to grow based on the pelvic misalignment and later on in life, have back pain. They go to the doctor to say, well, you know what, let’s take an x-ray. And the x-ray comes back, and the doctor says, don’t worry, it’s nothing serious. It’s just scoliosis like it appeared out of nowhere. Right. So we got to be careful with that diagnosis because. To the medical profession, there is nothing they can do. They just wait and if it gets bad enough, then they brace the child through surgery and fused the spine. So, there’s no proactive model in that and it’s all reactive, we’re going to wait and see, well, what do you want to wait and see? Let’s be more active with correcting what’s there at that point, right?

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:08:59] Exactly. And that’s the biggest point of why you would want to treat a child or why you should bring your children in to get checked is because they won’t necessarily show you where they’re hurting. And it might just seem normal, like, oh, they’ll shake it off. But some of these things turn into larger issues down the road. That’s why this image of slight scoliosis in the spine, that’s very small scoliosis in a child. But at this point, it’s very crucial to have the x rays taken over the course of time to see how scoliosis develops, because, as Dr. Roach said, we don’t know if the scoliosis is going to mature and get worse with time or if the scoliosis is going to stay where it is and stay at that particular size there. It’s really important to be active.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:09:52] And in terms of numbers like as a child is still growing, you know, they say, well, scoliosis can grow one to two degrees a year. So, you imagine two degrees on the worst. And for 15 years, that’s 30 degrees. I mean, that’s certain. Like, it can be huge. And I’ve seen it grow more than two degrees. And we usually get them the last minute and say, is there anything you can do at that point? They’re already of 40-degree scoliosis and they’re already talking about racing. That is not the time. Although, yes, there might be something we can do. But at that point, it’s more management than prevention. Right. So there’s no better time.

On Friday, I’m adjusting to a seven-day-old baby. Right. And just because I had a conversation with this pregnant female who had no idea why she should have her child checked and she ended up having somewhat of a stressful birth last minute, the cord was tied, and they had to push harder and harder and harder. And so that’s a wonderful gift to give the child to be able to give them the best opportunity possible to have a healthy spine that controls the nervous system, which at that point is everything, right?

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:11:08] Absolutely. Absolutely. And I just want to add one point as well, because, you know, we talk a lot about the physical nature of the job and delivering the adjustment to the spine and changing that nervous system. But another thing that can easily get swept over among the drama of treatment is the idea of learning how to manage the stressors in your life, right, whether it be physical or chemical stress or an environmental stressor. It’s truly important to limit the amount of stress that you have on your nervous system. So, your muscles are continuing to pull and act in the direction that you don’t want them to act. And fair to say?

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:11:53] Yeah, one of the things that I talk about is the fact that the nervous system is the master control of the entire body. Every single organ cell tissue has a nerve supply to it. One of the surest things is that we can say why we are alive is that we have the ability to adapt. If our body could not adapt, if we went outside and it was 20 degrees outside and we left a place that was indoors at twenty-one degrees from twenty-one degrees to twenty-eight degrees, we would die if we could not adapt.

The number one system that gives us the ability to adapt is our nervous system. So, if you are not adapting to your environment, hence migraines, when the barometric pressure changes outside. You’re going to tie your shoes and your back goes out, you go into a room, and you can’t bear the smell of perfume while other people are bearing the smell of perfume. Those might all be signs and symptoms of you not being able to adapt to your environment. What system controls that as your nervous system? Where does your nervous system get housed in your spine and brain? So, if your skull alignment is not good, if your spinal alignment is not good, then your nervous system cannot be healthy.

No different for an adult than with a child. What we’re talking about right now is not being able to latch asthma. With all these things that these children display, why not check the spine? We don’t treat asthma, headaches or back pain. Instead, we create a better environment for the spine so that it’s more conducive for your nervous system to be healthier. That is really the crux of that. No different for a child in an adult.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:13:47] Yeah, exactly. And that’s a beautiful Segway because, you know, they talk about children who have babies who have difficulty latching. Right. And so the mobility of the neck and not being able to find the mother, you know, is a very crucial period. And so parents oftentimes take their children to chiropractors, have their nervous system, try to figure out if there are any interferences so that they can have a better time matching. Another reason is colic. Right. And so a child always who’s cannot sleep. Right. If they don’t have sleep, they’re not their spine isn’t resting. It’s not adopting in the evening. Right. And so there are many reasons why you would want to take a child in to see a chiropractor in order to have their spine moved properly.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:14:34] And be wary of the child that prefers one breast over the other. I’ve had mothers say, you know, really latches on one side. Well, that’s probably because when he goes to the other side, his neck hurts and you can get comfortable. So he’s not a latch. So those are the things that we listen to in a chiropractic health history examination for the red flags that allow us to check certain areas based on the behaviour of that child who’s not telling the mom, hey, my dad said join on the right is like, Mom, can you go to the other room now? And the child’s not going to say that. So you need to figure things out and speak things out and listen to a chiropractor and the advice that we’re going to give you.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:15:14] So far, if you’ve enjoyed this conversation, make sure you give us a thumbs up or a heart, definitely a bright spot in my career is being able to help children. They respond so quickly and adapt to the chiropractic adjustment because their nervous system hasn’t been intoxicated with physical, chemical and emotional stress over 30, 40, 50, 60 years.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:15:39] Yeah, exactly. And their response moves so much better than their spines are just so fluid and ready. You don’t need a lot of force to inflict to do the adjustment on the spine at all to do what it is that we have to do. Children respond super, super, super well. And so there are many reasons why you want to take your child in to see a chiropractor. If you’re nervous or if you’re unsure, honestly, it’s better to have them checked and taken in than to go without doing anything at all. And that was a great point.

I hear that often times people have been talking about this. Well, we should be alternating back and forth and ensuring that the child can latch on to both sides so that they get even time using the neck muscles, not reloading and preferentially on one side versus the other before their cervical lordosis is even developed. Yeah. Yes.

Chiropractic Care for Teenagers

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:16:36] All good on this Ben I think that was a great, great first point. Yeah, well into the next phase of life. Which is teenagers had one today. And what we talked about for probably a good 20 minutes was this.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:16:57] If so, go ahead. There’s a rising concern, and especially in youth with the amount that they are using technology, and especially now we’re living in such a universe where we’re always looking at our phones, seemingly always looking at our phones and placing our spines into positions where it makes it really, really hard for them to stay, to stay perfectly adaptable. So we’re already putting undue stress on the nervous system from this new environment, this technology age that we’re living in. And we talked about in previous Humpday conversations, the transformation that the spine can be under, even at a young age.

We talk about the horns and the back of the head, right. The lack of cervical courage and without this beautiful cervical curve degeneration. Go ahead, Dr. Roach. Then do you want to talk about the case you had the day that you showed me? Yeah, and so I was I was actually showing Dr. Roach a case, an x-ray that I had sent to the office today from one of the nearby hospitals and it was a giant enthesophyte. It was a giant sorry an enthesophyte hanging off the back of the EOP. And so you can go and look at our previous Humpday conversations to know exactly what we’re talking about. But it is a giant foreign coming off the back and it’ll start to intrude because the muscle is constantly pulling and so it’ll start to ossify into the muscle there.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:18:27] And I thought it was great to see because we saw it on our Humpday Conversations and I had to get a photo of it from a photo on Google. But to see another one of these come into the office and Roland just goes to show you how common some of these things are in this one. This individual was not in their 70s. This was a middle, middle-aged patient. So just goes to show.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:18:54] Remember, if you recall, like, the conversation we had is because when the head is down, the muscles that attach in the back of the head are constantly pulling on the bone. So the bone starts to form because it doesn’t want the muscle to detach tendons, starts to get ossified. So you start to see this horn on the back of the neck. And we’re starting to see that in young adults. I just want to mention, when I look at that lady with their phone, if you recall, we talked about what was called an optogenetic reflex. So what are these kids mostly on? They are on Instagram, they are on Snapchat, they are on Tick Tock and Facebook.

All of those platforms are structured in a way where you’re scrolling up and down with the information going up because you’re scrolling to see more news, more photos, more whatever you’re looking at as the news feed or the stream. Your feed goes up, your eyes go up, and then you come back down to catch the next thing that’s going up. That gives your brain the illusion that you are falling forward to your body starts to get stooped even more. Those platforms create that optogenetic reflex much more than just browsing the Internet because your eyes are going up and down, up and down, up and down in the same way that if you’re following when you’re falling, the head goes forward and the eyes come up. Your body actually thinks like it’s falling down every time you’re on your phone.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:20:29] It might not be bad for five minutes. You’re on there. We’re talking to this lady today. She can be on there a good part of the day. He and covid been like that. So we created habits during college because there wasn’t any school. So kids were spending more time on their phones. I mean, it’s just gotten to a point where it’s starting to have a neurological effect and we’re starting to create neurological pathways in the brain that is darn hard to resolve any race. Right. So. Crazy, crazy stuff, definitely crazy.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:21:02] I’m going to start referring to reading and being on your phone almost as if it’s a sport because we’re using our neck muscles, right. Go beyond what we’ve been using before. And so if you consider the things that you’re doing every day, Poche really right with this poor posture to be somewhat of a sport, wouldn’t you want to have that treated because you’re being put into a position where the spine is not like in it, your neck is suffering for it, and you think that you have the resilience to make it through and that you’ll just sort of overcoming it if you take a little break. But you can’t just get rid of some of the compensations that you created by taking just a little break. There has to be some type of correction done and so on.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:21:53] So I had the dad sitting there and I had the daughter sitting there and I said, I’ll use an analogy. I said if you were eating sugar every single day. What to do? But you never brush your teeth, you would never floss. The impact on the sugar on the tea would cause decay. Well, let’s pretend now your cell phone is sugar-free, your spine constantly creating compensatory mechanisms where the muscles on the back of the neck are being tense. The optogenetic reflex body thinks it’s falling. I am not a fool and I’m not going to say that. Well, we shouldn’t be using cell phones. That’s part of our culture now, just like sugar is.

But we have a way to combat sugar, which is brushing their teeth. And the more sugar you eat, the more you brush. Well, if we use the cell phone and we never, ever do anything to correct the impact of the stress that it causes, then the spine has no choice but to decay. This is why at the age of 10, 11, 12, you can already see a loss of a curve in the neck, and when you lose a loss of curve in the neck, also known as loss of structure. You go into loss of function and loss of function over time creates osteoarthritis. And because it happens at 40, 50, there’s a stupid excuse that people say, well, I got it because I got old. Right, so everybody should look the same as 40 years old.

Right, and then if that was the case, well, arthritis would be evenly spread out throughout the entire spine, so then why can it be that somebody has arthritis in their neck and arthritis in their lower back when both were born the same day? They’re both the same age. So arthritis is not about old age. It’s about how you’ve treated your body and how you’ve combated the stress that has been under like sugar. You brush your teeth, cell phone usage, mechanical lifting and all that stuff. What have you done to combat that? And I guarantee you if you’ve had no chiropractic care or you are not combating it to the degree that you can if you did have chiropractic care.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:24:08] And so this is great that is a great point. This is a great Segway as well. So there’s a rising concern in society right now about the number of painkillers that kids are using to combat some of the musculoskeletal pains that are underway right now. It’s actually a concern in there was a study published in Ontario where there is a very high percentage. I can’t remember the exact percentage.

And so I don’t want to say with absolute certainty, but a very high percentage of children in high school who are addicted to painkillers now using it for pain starts with pain. Right. Can’t just say I’m going to start taking painkillers because it’s cool. Right. But it starts with something. And so we have to look for a different alternative rather than using painkillers early in life. We have to look for a solution. Right. Which is getting the spine moving. Right.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:25:11] It’s another side effect of technology and being glued to the phone and the blue light and being up late. One of the highest prescribed medications now for kids is that sleeping aids. Did you have a problem like sleeping as a kid? No. You’re outside till like nine o’clock at night. You hit the pillow. You were asleep before you actually hit the pillow. However, I don’t know. It’s easy to give up, like, it’s just unreal. If you give up, like, what are these kids go. Right. So we got to train the parents like we got to change the culture about not letting go until there’s a symptom and then taking care of your health.

You know, I’m going to retire and then I’ll take care of my health. Like, what the heck, right? Like, gosh, guys, if you’re feeling us right now and you kind of having, like, light bulb moments, you in your mind, you know, there’s flashes of your grandchild and how much time they’re spending on their phone or whatever. Give us a little bit of love here, like a little thumbs up or a heart, because this is totally an epidemic. We were talking about a pandemic right now. This is a pandemic when it comes to our kids and what they’re going through right now.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:26:25] Absolutely. Another reason why parents will oftentimes take their kids to the chiropractor is when they get hurt playing sports or they get hurt doing something. Oftentimes we’ll see kids come in because they’re in pain and suffered an acute injury. So the chiropractor will oftentimes treat acute injuries as well. It’s not just little aches and aches and pains with the neck pain. MSK, sometimes there are mechanisms of injury, right. That will result. And so we’ll treat those compensations, those patterns that have arisen because of the pain and the stress that the body’s under now maintaining the spine. Well, so that that doesn’t happen again. Crucially important.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:27:11] Yeah. So many times treat the kids and they’re coming in for just preventive maintenance and we check what’s there. And all of a sudden you have a soccer game and they sprain their ankle. So they’ll come in and we’ll fix the ankle. But the overall presence and the focus is on, OK, now let’s check. That’s fine. We fix the ankle. We go back to meeting the most important part of their entire body, which is the spine, right? Yeah, and exactly because kids will wake up with pain.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:27:38] Right. Will wake up and neck pain and aches and pains from the sports and all the studying and the phones that they’re looking at all day long. And so it’s very important to correct these issues and so that they’re not suffering any compensation because these kids are going to graduate. They’re going to go on and do stuff with their lives. They will go to school and start doing things on their own, and they’re going to continue with the same habits which can lead to issues down the road, perhaps into their adulthood. This brings us to our next slide. Chiropractic care for adults.

Chiropractic Care for Adults

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:28:09] Yeah, I mean, I was stunned by that. I kind of knew it was high. But eighty-five percent of the working population will experience back-related injuries or conditions. And health care estimates that musculoskeletal disorders, including back pain, cost society, 16.4 billion in treatment, billion, not million, billion in treatment, rehabilitation and loss time costs. So. Lost time from work, that’s not like that’s direct. We’re talking about indirect; we’re talking about what are these companies missing out on because of lack of productivity from these people. My God. Unbelievable.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:28:52] Yeah and that stat was just, you know, like hugely eye-opening, just, you know, from the corporate perspective, very eye-opening, because it just shows that there is something lacking. Right. In our society to keep people moving, feeling well, more energy at work, less time off because of injury, increased productivity. So we’re trying to provide and there are chiropractors that are corporate chiropractors that will provide chiropractic care for businesses, of course. But just explaining the importance of why the spine should be moved and especially when you’re held at a desk all day in that position. Right. The spine isn’t as adaptable as the teenager or the child, for instance. And so these compensation patterns are deeply embedded in your structure. And so it takes a little more time to start feeling and moving better.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:29:54] Yeah, there are many different things that can we talk about, like a job that’s very physically stressful, you shovelling and landscaping. But then you’ve got somebody at Sobeys who’s standing there scanning produce and products all day long, rotating right, the left, right, left, right, left, all day long. So we build compensatory patterns of the brain said, OK, you’re spending a lot of time here. I see which muscle you’re using all the time. So I’m going to shut the ones that you don’t use off.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:30:26] And now you’ve become an asymmetrical individual in terms of how you move. So one day you need to move to the opposite side. These muscles have been shut off for a long time. They don’t engage you in the party yourself. Right. So at that point, did you get hurt because you went to tie your shoe or did you get hurt because of the cumulative effect of what you’ve done your entire life? And one day, instead of turning left, you turn right now and the brain says, I ain’t going there. So. So talk to us, Ben about how chiropractic care can be beneficial. And worker’s comp claims and what the Alberta Workers Comp Association said about that.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:31:05] Yeah. So statistics show that patients receiving chiropractic care return to work faster and at less cost than with other forms of treatment. Now, the example of other forms of treatment wasn’t given, but I assume perhaps conventional measures were also studied in this as well. And so the regular medication route, the traditional route. And so for employers, this means that increased use of chiropractic care can reduce the premium costs for benefits and can contribute to improved productivity. Right. So less pain increased focus, less stress hormone in the body, less inflammation, you’re better able to focus. You’re not in as much pain. And cumulative performance statistics over the past decade from the Workers Compensation Board of Alberta in chiropractic is the most consistent and cost-effective treatment per claim.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:32:03] There was a similar study done in Ontario with Motor Vehicle Accident, where they reviewed claims and how fast people were able to go back to what was called pre-accident status. And chiropractic was the most cost-effective treatment and getting people back to their active status. So motor vehicle accident, workers comp, if it’s good enough for that, when there’s been trauma, there’s been like an injury. Imagine what you could do when you’re not at that point and perhaps go into the realm of being able to prevent that being even better.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:32:39] Exactly. For most adults and here in Nova Scotia, we oftentimes will see people later in life for their first chiropractic adjustment. At that point, oftentimes, we’ll take an X-ray and see what’s going on in the spine and where it starts. A lot of people already have some type of structural issues going on, whether it be osteoarthritis or degenerative disc. And so we’re already starting from a different point. Right. There’s a different perspective. And so people need to understand that, yes, chiropractic is great. It’s awesome. But just like anything else, it takes time. We’re not Amazon Prime. What we do takes time to do so.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:33:21] Sometimes as a chiropractor, it almost feels like we’re a dentist. Everybody that we’re seeing is around 30 to four years old. We’ve never seen a dentist before. We’re digging through the mouth and we’re like, oh, my gosh, how did this go, this battle? Right. And when you look back and you sit back, it’s no wonder when you look at everything that we do in the course of our life. If you’re 30, 40, 50, imagine the cumulative effect of all of these things you’ve ever done. No wonder there’s a degenerative disc in disc herniations and bulging and no curve and bone spurs. And, my gosh, we do a lot in the course of a lifetime. So, yeah, absolutely.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:34:05] I just want to give an example of how what you do as a child may impact your life later on down the road. So I have a patient of mine who is actually playing hide and go seek with some family members when she was a child. She remembers this and she was actually stuck in her dryer. And so she was stuck in the dryer for she said it was over six hours that curled in a dryer and they had to use the jaws of life to remove her from this dryer. So she initially comes to the clinic with headaches that she’s had for years. For years. Right. And then back pain that developed after pregnancy. Low back pain.

The x-ray was taken and there were multiple levels of degenerative change that have occurred. She had said she was all it was only the initial when one of our assistants had asked her, you know, any sort of trauma is growing up. Then she said, well, you know, I was stuck in a dryer for a period of time when I was a kid. Do you think that could be? Definitely, no question. There’s no way that you have all these DeGennaro changes, this individual is not very old in her 30s. Right.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:35:24] So any physical trauma, but also emotional trauma as well.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:35:27] Right. And definitely, definitely. And so those types of stressors. Right. And its influence on the spine later on in life when it’s not corrected can lead to issues down the road that you think, well, I just have headaches, you know, just a normal headache and I’m here for my headaches. I just want to decrease the headaches that I have. But the cause of the headache is so important for you to understand and in your recovery because this isn’t something that happened just overnight.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:35:57] Yeah, one of the chiropractors I respect a lot says symptoms are just the body’s language. Right. That’s the language that your body utilizes to grab your attention, to scream at you, to take care of him or her. So headaches is a headache is a language lower back pain is a language. But if you have headaches because you don’t have a curved neck, the fact that you don’t have a curve in your neck is much more important than the headache you’re having, because that is going to be the ignition to a whole host of other things that are going to happen beyond the headache.

The headache is minimal at that point, they understand how little the headache is compared to the cause of the headache, so they get that across to people is super, super important. So what we’re getting into here is once we get everything kind of structured properly and we have people at their full potential, what they’re going to be under chiropractic care, what’s the research seeing in terms of how do we maintain chiropractic care? Is there a benefit to continue to see a chiropractor on an ongoing basis, like I’ve been suggested by chiropractors since I was 18 years old, pretty much twice a month? Is there a benefit to that?

Maintenance Care Studies

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:37:18] Yes, and so these are two independent studies. Some of these are done by non-chiropractors. Right. And so they are looking at the efficacy of continuing to treat them without the presence of a symptom per se. Right. And so the Nordiques study is one of the more well-respected studies that was published, which took a large number of people over a longitudinal study just basically figuring out, OK, are people in less pain because they’re under chiropractic care? How long can they go without episodes of pain? And the results are that, yes, so people have fewer acute episodes.

They had an increased length of time without pain-free and fewer episodes of persistent low back pain. And then another study that was done by spine in twenty eleven, which is the most well respected spinal journal in the world. Patients benefited from regular treatments from chiropractic because it prompted regular evaluations and early detection of things that should be treated right dysfunction. If we noticed that there was a large stressor between the time that we saw you and now we’ll be able to pick that up and treat that before it gets any worse. And another thing that I’d like to mention as well, which they’ve sort of mentioned herein that summary, is detection.

So if your pain is completely different than what you’re usually getting or something that is a usual flare-up for you, then we’re able to determine the difference between the two because we’ve been in charge. We’ve been looking at your back for this maintenance program. We’ve been insuring that that means-testing. So I think that’s such great value. And I really enjoyed how they have they put that in the study. They’re under detection evaluation and there’s no better journal than the spine.

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:39:17] And one of the things that sometimes patients will say, the benefit of seeing something on an ongoing basis, you get to establish a baseline of what’s normal for that patient, how their spine feels, and sometimes patients will be laying there and I’ll put my hand on their spine. They’ll say, you’ve been having pain over here. How did you know? Because at that moment I remember what the spine had been like because we’ve been seeing them or her or him for a long time. And then on that visit, it doesn’t feel right. But the patient might not know really, that maybe there’s not a whole lot of pain or whatever, but we’re going to be able to catch things. And sometimes I’ll see you feel nothing.

I don’t really feel that, but I know that it’s not moving well. So to be proactive and go ahead and move those joints and stretch whatever it is and stretch. Absolutely, you can, according to these two studies, prevent stuff from happening and lengthen the time between those painful episodes, meaning you’re spending more time feeling better, the better quality of life.

Cerenity PM

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Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:40:55] I had a patient come in and she wakes up in the middle of the night, and the reason sometimes that happens because your cortisol level spikes and so you talk to them for months, first time in a long time, she’s able to sleep through the night. So one of the cool benefits of taking that Cerenity PM. Guys, if you’re watching this episode in particular on Facebook or on YouTube, make sure on YouTube, if you’re on YouTube, make sure you subscribe to our channel.

Episodes that we’ve done in the past are all they’re far easier to find episodes on YouTube than it is on Facebook because we do a lot of Facebook stuff. You’d have to scroll down forever, get the optokinetic reflex and your body thinks it’s falling. So that’s not good. Do it on YouTube. Subscribe to YouTube. So I am done. How about you Ben? What did you get? We’re done.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:41:44] We’re done. Everyone, thank you so much. Conversation number thirty-two. That’s a wrap

Dr. Clayton Roach: [00:41:50] Everybody. Right now. Go ahead and share the episode. All right. The viewers are going down a little bit in the summer, now people are busy. So make sure you share this episode and yeah, make sure that you tell your friends when you see the possible next week with the naturopath, Dr. Brian Reed. Make sure you share those polls because people can register and because they register, they’ll be able to be at the webinar. Far easier than telling your friends. Yeah, go on the website, follow them and you’ll get a notification. Registering for the webinar is by far the easiest way to do it. Thank you so much.

Dr. Ben Boudreau: [00:42:26] Thank you.

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